Ganley gives info to SIPO but fails to publicly say who is funding him. Plus says that Polish loan scandal "Never happened"

Not only has Libertas failed to be transparent and open regarding their funding details Ganley is now contradicting his Polish Libertas leaders who said that Libertas Poland would get bank loans backed by ganley which they would default on and Ganley would later pay. this ruse woukld allow ganley to continue saying that he was not or later on say he did not fund the "election" as he would be merely covering bad debts he had guaranteed.
Asked by Colm keena of the Irish Times about these offered loans that would be guaranteed by Mr Ganley, Mr Ganley said: “It never happened.”

That of course is another fudge. Does ganley mean it never happend YET or does he mean it never happened but soon will or does he mean that his Polish Party are lying about him.

Or a much easier thing to believe Ganley is being opaque and again is failing to give a straight answer. Spin spin mistruths and spin. Will ganley stop this awful attack on people's intelligence and either be transparent and tell the simple truth or give up and go back to his defence contacting for the US military. Obama should be aware that Ganley's Iraqi mentor Jack Shaw is at the centre of a spin which has sought to dicredit sources of his electoral campaign funding.

Ganley has had some tricky slippery teachers. It was Shaw who introduced Ganley to the Eskimo company Nana Pacific.
Any one with info on Ganley's mentor Ronald Reagan's man in Saudi Arabia Don Di Marino aka Donald N. De Marino aka Don De mMarino should email peoplekorps@gmail.com

Friday, April 3, 2009
Libertas responds to request for funding details


COLM KEENA, Public Affairs Correspondent

LIBERTAS HAS replied to questions from the Standards in Public Office Commission about aspects of the funding of its campaign last year against the Lisbon Treaty.

The organisation has also supplied the commission, as required by law, with a copy of a bank account into which all political donations received during 2008 should have been lodged. The information has not been made public.

Last month the commission sent a report to Minister for the Environment John Gormley in which it stated that Libertas had failed to respond to requests for information about loans to the group, and other matters. Libertas said it had not been told there was a deadline for supplying the information.

The commission asked Libertas about the loans after it learned from media reports that founder Declan Ganley said he had organised a credit facility for Libertas.

The report said Mr Ganley wrote to the commission on August 13th, 2008, confirming that Libertas had received a personal loan from him “in respect of which a detailed legal agreement and repayment plan in accordance with commercial lending norms” had been agreed. The commission sought further details but these had not been supplied at the time of the publication of the report.

The commission had also been seeking information on the status of persons who media reports indicated had been working for Libertas while being employees of the Irish arm of Mr Ganley’s US-based company, Rivada networks.

Libertas has supplied the commission with a copy of a bank statement for 2008 of the account under which in law it is obliged to lodge all political donations received. It has also supplied a certificate stating that all funds lodged were for political purposes.

A spokesman for the commission explained that the information in the bank statement cannot be disclosed. He said the Libertas response would now be considered. A call to a Libertas spokesman was not returned.

Under the law, the money lent to Libertas would not be a donation if it was given on normal commercial terms and so would not have to be lodged to the bank account designated for donations.

There is ongoing controversy in Poland over reports that Libertas there was offered loans that would be guaranteed by Mr Ganley, Mr Ganley said: “It never happened.”

Libertas refuses to go public on party funding despite claims to be the party of transparency

Despite their claim to be the party of transparency Libertas have again failed to make public the sources of their funding and details of defence contractor Rivada Networks early funding. Rivada Networks offices, phones and paid employees David Cochrane and Naoise Nunn were all utilised to set up Libertas.

The story in the Irish Independent today is highly topical given the funding scandal that is taking place over Libertas in Poland

Libertas founder to fund Polish party through the back door?

30th March 2009


Irish millionaire businessman Declan Ganley plans to take advantage of a loophole in Polish law that would allow him to fund the Polish branch of euroskeptic political party Libertas.

Polish law bans foreign financial funding in domestic politics, but Ganley appears to have found a way to bypass current legislation. The founder of Libertas and ardent euroskeptic proposes to act as a guarantor if Libertas Poland are unable to repay the bank loans issued to run the party.

The story broke in Saturday's edition of Dziennik and provoked outrage amongst politicians, who described the news as “scandalous.”

Zbigniew Chlebowski, PO's parliamentary club leader, called the news “unsettling” as, “a bank guarantee that gives a party money for elections can be given by a person that is prohibited by law to do so. This means to circumvent the existing rules,” he said.

Mr Chlebowski called for fast and decisive action in dealing with Mr Ganley's proposed funding, and expects advice from specialist lawyers to be available in the coming days.

From Warsaw Business Journal by Robert Szmigielski

Libertas refuses to go public on party funding
By Aine Kerr Political Correspondent

Tuesday March 31 2009

LIBERTAS last night supplied the State's ethics watchdog with a series of financial documents in a bid to provide "detailed answers" about its funding.

But the anti-Lisbon Treaty organisation will not be making public any copies of the bank statements or loan agreements, despite its own calls for greater political transparency.

Two weeks ago, the organisation failed to provide adequate information to the Standards in Public Office (Sipo) commission on where it got the money to fund its expensive campaign for a 'No' vote in the Lisbon Treaty referendum. It has since been accused of "not being willing to operate under the Law" by Fianna Fail.

Libertas last night submitted documents in relation to three key issues queried. Copies of a €200,000 loan agreement between Libertas chief Declan Ganley and the organisation were provided, after Sipo first wrote to it last June seeking details of any loans provided to the organisation for the referendum campaign.

Details of the thousands of books on the Lisbon Treaty supplied by the Foundation for European Democracy and distributed by Mr Ganley were also submitted.

Sipo had raised questions about whether these constituted a donation because the material could be deemed to be influencing the vote's outcome.

However, legal advisers for Libertas are said to have argued that the books do not constitute a donation because the material was neutral and simply relayed the contents of the Lisbon Treaty.

The third aspect of the submission covers the employees of Mr Ganley's Rivada company, who worked for Libertas in their spare time and on a voluntary basis. Sipo again questioned if the use of these employees constituted a donation. Documents provided seek to outline when staff worked for Rivada, then moved to Libertas.

Asked why the organisation had decided against making the documents public, a spokesman said: "Why would we make them public, spend weeks explaining the details and have the Opposition attacking the contents when they won't do the same thing. There's a need for fairness."

- Aine Kerr Political Correspondent
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Earlier Liberats Nein Danke reports here

Libertas Election Financing ? How Libertas circumvent election laws to receive Ganley's money revealed by Polish Libertas VP

Libertas deny that Ganley is funding Polish campaign. Polish daily Dziennik says story is true and confirmed by mulitple Libertas Poland sources

Libertas deny that Ganley is funding Polish campaign. Polish daily Dziennik says story is true and confirmed by mulitple Libertas Poland sources

Lying Libertas Lie Again

This blog broke the story in the English language on Saturday morning at 6.15am. See here

The Irish Times has an interesting follow up in today's paper.

Sadly we are faced with yet another denial by one Libertas spokesperson in the face of other Livberats sources confirming the story.
Ganley's personal spokesperson John McGuirk says

Mr Ganley was not giving such guarantees. “ was asked a hypothetical question and he gave an answer he shouldn’t have,” said Mr McGuirk. “He answered it in a stupid manner, to be honest."

However the story is confirmed by several sources within Libertas Poland including one of its Vice Presidents Artur Zawisza who said "The most important thing for banks is to assess the creditworthiness and the collateral. I know they consulted with Mr. Declan Ganleyem" - when asked about the source of funding election campaigns.

So who is lying Libertas Ireland or Libetas Poland?

Irish Times
Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Libertas denies Ganley is funding Polish campaign

DEREK SCALLY in Berlin and COLM KEENA Public Affairs Correspondent

LIBERTAS HAS denied reports that founder Declan Ganley will in effect personally bankroll the European election campaign of its newly founded Polish branch by guaranteeing bank loans for the party.

The Polish daily Dziennik at the weekend reported assertions from a Libertas Polska party source that the party hoped to raise a loan of €250,000 on the basis of guarantees from Mr Ganley.

Such a loan guarantee, although legal, would effectively circumvent Polish legislation that bans foreign funding of Polish domestic politics, and the suggestion has prompted a heated reaction in the country.

Libertas spokesman John McGuirk insisted yesterday, however, that Mr Ganley was not giving such guarantees. “ was asked a hypothetical question and he gave an answer he shouldn’t have,” said Mr McGuirk. “He answered it in a stupid manner, to be honest.”

Dziennik stood by its story yesterday, citing confirmation of the plan from several sources within the party.

Libertas insists it is financing its campaign to field candidates EU-wide in the June European elections through donations and fundraising.

History has left Poles acutely sensitive to foreign influence on domestic politics and the Libertas report has prompted concern that it could set a dangerous precedent in Polish politics.

“Today it’s Irish money, tomorrow will it be Russian money?” asked Dziennik opinion editor Michal Karnowksi.

“It’s a trick to get the money they cannot accept directly from abroad. It was obvious that Libertas Polska had no money of their own and that Ganley was going to give money, the question until now was just how he was going to do it.”

The Polish election commission, which can examine party financing only in the aftermath of an election, has, however, said campaign loans guaranteed by non-Polish citizens are legitimate. Leading figures in Poland’s ruling Civic Platform (PO) party called it “unsettling” for a party to “get money for elections from a person prohibited by law to do so”.

“This means to circumvent the existing rules,” said Zbigniew Chlebowski, PO parliamentary leader.

Dziennik claims that Libertas Polska will have access to €250,000, as will the Libertas party in Slovakia.

Libertas in Latvia, the newspaper claimed, would have funding of €100,000.

Mr Ganley says Libertas drew down €200,000 during last year’s Lisbon campaign in Ireland from a credit facility he put in place. Today is the deadline for Libertas to submit bank account statements for donations and a document certifying all donations received to the Standards in Public Office Commission (SIPO).

Dominika Pszczolkowska is a Polish journalist and Brussels correspondent for Gazeta Wyborcza see her blog Declan Ganley to finance anti-Lisbon campaign in Poland

Declan Ganley will finance the anti-Lisbon campaign in Poland. His allies, who have no money, claim he will guarantee their loan and repay if himself after the election.

As "Gazeta Wyborcza" reports, the Libertas crowd in Poland have found a legal loophole to get financing from abroad. Daniel Pawłowiec, one of the Polish Libertas activists told "Gazeta" Mr. Ganley will guarantee a loan they will take. Another anonymous activist told "Dziennik" daily that the loan would be repaid by Mr. Ganley after the election.

Libertas Germany are charging 240 Euro or 1% of students income for membership per annum

Libertas Germany are charging 250 Euro for annual membership and 1% of income from students and unemployed. They have a minimum membership fee for the latter two categories of 24 Euro. They are currently seeking to collect 4000 signatures to allow them, to run in the European elections in Germany. These they are collecting in the street and at train stations. Is 240 Euro not an elitist fee level for membership to an untried political party that has no policies?

Libertas Germany
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Mitgliedsbeitrag

Der Mitgliedsbeitrag wird in der Satzung festgelegt und beträgt aktuell 240,- Euro im Jahr. Schüler, Studenten, Arbeitslose und Rentner zahlen nach Selbsteinschätzung einen jährlichen Mitgliedsbeitrag in Höhe von 1% ihres Jahresnettoeinkommens, mindestens jedoch 24 EUR pro Jahr.

Libertas Election Financing ? How Libertas circumvent election laws to receive Ganley's money revealed by Polish Libertas VP

Vice President of Libertas Poland, Artur Zawisza, confirms funding circumvention.

In order circumvent the law regarding election financing Declan Ganley and his Libertas are reported to be using a clever ruse. Individual national branches are reported to be taking out bank loans which are secured by Declan Ganley according to one report.
These loan allow the national branch of Libertas to fund itself with money that originates in their own countries. However, it is reported that after the elections the national branches of Libertas will default on the loan allowing the banks to seek their repayment from the guarantor.

By using this facility the national branches of Libertas can flout their country's laws and receive as much cash as Ganley is prepared to give them.


As the "loans" from the banks are just that, loans, the upper limits on donations will also not apply. The fact that Declan Ganley will later repay the loans means that he technically is NOT funding the elections, they are bank loans are, he will be technically financially covering defaulted loans not the elections themselves directly.

Therefore when Ganley says that he will not be funding the European election he is technically correct. What he omitted to say was that he had worked out a cleaver scam that allows him to pay for the elections later while being able to deny that he is paying for the elections now. Ganley will be merely paying back loans that other people took out and he guaranteed.


This story is breaking in from Poland today with reports confirming that Libertas is availing of this loop hole in Polish electoral law which strictly outlaws Polish parties from taking money from foreign political parties and individuals.
According to one report
"Our electoral system, however, prohibits the financing of party committees and candidates from abroad. To circumvent this prohibition , Polish Libertas take out loans on which the security//property will be provided by an Irish multimillionaire. After the Polish campaign Libertas will not pay its debts, the guarantor will do so, that is, Ganley"'Dziennik': Start w wyborach? Ganley nam zap?aci

Thomas Butkiewicz writing for Dziennik says that one of the Polish Vice Presidents of Libertas, the League of Polish Families Daniel PAWŁOWIEC, said that Libertas would fully comply with funding laws.
However his co Vice President Artur Zawisza let the cat out of the bag by going further confirming both this source of funding and Declan Ganley's personal involvement in the ruse. ""The most important thing for banks is to assess the creditworthiness and the collateral. I know they consulted with Mr. Declan Ganleyem" - when asked about the source of funding election campaigns.
Original report

Google translate version

Official" - How to cheat the electoral commission
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So far Libertas Poland is reported to have received 250,000 euro, Libertas Slovenia 250,000. euro and Libertas Lithuania has so far received 100,00 using this ruse.

According to a source are using this device throughout Europe to "circumvent the electoral law".


In Ireland in 2008 Ganley said his anti-Lisbon campaign was funded by many legal small donations but Ganley later admitted "loaning" Libertas 200, 000k. The source of the estimated 1.5 million euro that Libertas spent has never been disclosed.
This figure was more than twice what Ireland's senior government partner Fianna Fail spent.


How does a party that says it will bring democracy and transparency while fighting elites maintain credibility when they use such a ruse to deliberately circumvent national laws, while at the same time taking money
This lack of clarity and transparency and the deliberate searching out and use of loopholes is quite the opposite of what Declan Ganley is saying his party stands for.

Mr transparency Declan Ganley is leading this subterfuge.



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How can the Far Right promise us democracy? Libertas and The Big Lie

Libertas employees protest at European Commision.

Libertas cash funding not one but two billboards on trucks on 18 March in Brussels.

How much did this protest cost Libertas? Who is funding Libertas. Ganley says he is using his own cash so where have they got their cash from. Who is behind this? Who is funding their printing bills?

Their flyer today says that the EU passed more laws than any other single country in the last five years.
Duh.....well it is a collection of 27 countries Ganley. These Libertas people are ignorant of democracy and legislation. They use propaganda like Goebbels and are pushing their own Big Lie. It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

For Libertas the attempt to convince people that in Europe that all their elected politicians are "undemocratic" is one plank of their Big Lie. Another is that they say no institution of government is transparent despite the fact that they are secretive in nature and have no policies at all except negitive lie ridden threthoric. Thye have not revealed how they funded their No campaign in Ireland. they have not divulged who is funding their attcks on our democratic institions.

The people of Europe must resist this threat. Wipe out Libertas candidates in June.
Say NO to the rise of a pan European far right alliance.
Kill this monster at birth.

New Libertas funding claim in France: MEP Coûteaux accuses MPF of taking Libertas cash

Hunting in packs the new threat to Franch democarcy the "Mad Vicount" Phillipe de Villiers,
Declan" I am not a liar, a murderer, CIA, KGB" Ganley and Frédéric "The Psycho" Nihous

Declan Ganley's Libertas are accused of funding French party Movement Pour le France
De Villiers decision to go under the banner of liberty is far from unanimous in the party. MEP Paul-Marie Coûteaux has declared that the MPF have recieved funding from Libertas according to La Tribune.

32 federation presidents have signed a motion of no confidence against Philippe de Villiers. . At the top of the rebellion,

Coûteaux

also said "why do we sovereignists, we would agree to be led by a foreigner?"

MEP goes even further, accusing the MPF of receiving funding from Libertas. "

"Slander!" Nihous Villiers heartily reply and to ensure that "no one eurocent Libertas will be used for the French country."

The presidents of Hunting, Fishing, Nature and Traditions (CPNT) and the Movement for France (MPF), launched their campaign for European elections. The movements of the two former presidential candidates to go under the banner of Libertas, the party created by the Irish leader.


For the MPF and CPNT, the Libertas campaign will give the finger to the entrance of Turkey into Europe, against which Philippe de Villiers has struggled for several years. For this Libertas demands that the European Parliament imposes a "perimeter of Europe." "We want a Europe that promotes and defends us," says Philippe de Villiers, alluding to the introduction of a system of preference in emigration.
For Declan Ganley, the implementation of the text would lead Europe to a phase of "post-democracy." "So you will lose any opportunity to make your voice heard in Brussels." Dramatizing, the Irishman continued: "Millions of people have shed their blood all over Europe for democracy!"

Frédéric Nihous calls on the EU to establish a "true European environmental policy" calling for "putting people at the heart of the debate." "Stop dreaming! Stop being utopians'," he says. Beyond a willingness to work together, the president of CPNT quickly found other things in common with Ganley, also a hunter. Frédéric Nihous declared "we will hunt in packs."

Although Libertas officially announce the composition of its list in"ten to fifteen days," Philippe de Villiers has confirmed that he would run in the West, and Frédéric Nihous in the Northwest. As for the nomination of Jerome Riviere, director of the French countryside for Libertas, and the head of the list francilienne, is no longer a secret. Patrick Louis should be renewed in the Southeast.

But the decision to go under the banner of Libertas is far from unanimous in the party.

32 federation presidents have signed a motion of no confidence against Philippe de Villiers. At the top of the rebellion, MEP Paul-Marie Coûteaux stresses that Libertas had "enormous problems". He was to the head of the list for the Ile-de-France , he denounced a "grip on the campaign" on the MPF party of Declan Ganley." The prize of leading the campaign was given to Philippe de Villiers.. Coûteaux continued: "why do we sovereignists agree to be led by a foreigner?"

The MEP went even further, accusing the MPF of recieving funding from Libertas. "Slander!" declare Nihous and Villiers "not one eurocent from Libertas will be made for the French countryside."