Lisbon 2 campaign begins with dishonest leaflets at Giscard D’Estaing talk

Valéry Giscard D’Estaing

The Lisbon 2 campaign was launched on Thursday 12 Febuary in Dublin at a debate at Trinity College between Valéry Giscard D’Estaing and among others Libertas's Caroline Simons. One leaflet distribted ion the night included the same smear that Libertas employed during the Lisbon 1 referendum campaign over which D'Estaing branded Ganley dishonest only

On Thursday last Valéry Giscard D’Estaing, who played a key role during Ireland’s Lisbon Treaty referendum last year, debated with anti-treaty advocates in Dublin . He became a key figure during the campaign after Libertas quoted him as saying that the treaty meant that “public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly”.

The quotation was taken from an interview carried in French newspaper Le Monde but the next paragraph made clear that he believed that such an approach would be “unworthy” and only confirm European citizens “in the idea that the construction of Europe is organised behind their backs by lawyers and diplomats”.

Following the referendum campaign, Mr Giscard, who was a controversial figure during the work of the EU convention and strongly in favour of greater EU federalism, denounced Libertas founder Declan Ganley, claiming that he had deliberately misquoted him in a “dishonest” way. here

Declan Ganley, wrote that Mr Giscard had "boasted that 'public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly'."

Mr Giscard's next, unquoted paragraph, however, makes clear that he regarded such an approach as "unworthy" and likely to "confirm European citizens in the idea that the construction of Europe is organised behind their backs by lawyers and diplomats". here

A woman was ejected by Trinity College security from Thursday debate for circulating the below leaflet which uses the same quote from Le Monde which D'Estaing denounced Declan Ganley, for using to misquote him in a “dishonest” way. the leaflet declares that the EU is anti Democratic. Read it here

Leaftlet 1 front

Leaftlet 1 reverse: It says Europe and Lisbon Treaty anti European
and anti democratic . Contain dishonest use of D'Estaing
quote: “public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it,
the proposals we dare not present to them directly”.

The leaflet also contains the web address www.wethepeopleofeire.com .
The domain name was created Tue, Jan 06, 2009 . Its admin details are not registered.
Therefore this is a NEW campaign and not old leaflets from the June's campaign.

Security did not apprehend the person who placed the below under seats at the meeting where D'Estaing debated Libertas's Caroline Simon and Sinn Fein's Mary Lou McDonald.



This leaflet gives a web link to a very similar web address as leaflet one above www.wethe people.ie registered to a Harry O'Reilly registered also this January. The leaflet states that RFID (Radio frequecy ID cjips) are already inserted into Euro notes. It also states"
We have little time to sink Lisbon 2 and stop our kids from being chipped like cattle".
The sites download page includes the below leaflet. http://www.wethepeople.ie/download.html this page was last modified on 13 January 2008.
It also contains links to COIR an anti abortion group that it is strongly suggested were used by Libertas to campaign in the Lisbon referndum in Ireland. In November they accused Irish parliamentarians of treason here

Is this the start of Libertas's European campaign? These two recently created websites are spreading information and disinformation including the D'Estaing quote that Declan Ganley used dishonestly and out of context according toD'Estaing quote.

Another ruse that is employed is the availability of a downloadable version of this leaflet for people to print at home. The leaflet distributed at TCD on Thursday was professionally printed and guillotined/cropped. Though this was obvious I have been delayed making this post as I wished to have a professional printer concur with this view which he did on inspection of the leaflet.

Who is funding this campaign? Is it part of Libertas's campaign? They will deny this of course.

Ireland's Standards in Public Office should investigate these leaflets.

Update Within an hour of making this post a poster on machinenation posted a


high res image of piles of these leaflets awaiting distribution and the comment

The really funny thing here is that these leaflets will not be confined to Ireland. They'll be all over Europe. In fact, a little bird tells me, that they've already winged their merry way to parts foreign and have started to be handed out

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Yesterday was a busy day for Declan Ganley, while his barristers processed his attempt to get an injunction against The Village magazine he had time to speak to Ireland's RTE Radio Pat Kenny Show. Declan Ganley said “One way or the other, we are coming. Libertas is going to happen to Brussels, whether they like it or not.”

Libertas is going to happen TO Brussels? What does that mean Declan?
Are Libertas going to issue some policies?

By the time the court met for a second time Declan was rumoured to be in Germany.

Earlier on the radio he said he would overcome his failure to win recognition from the European Parliament. “We can run candidates anyway because we are registering Libertas as a political party nationally in every member state of the EU.”
So he has not registered in every state. How organised is that? Is this plan B?

One potential candidate is the legal advisor to Ireland's Pro Life Campaign, Caroline Simons. Caroline has a legal background and said last night she was considering running in the European elections in Dublin

“I am thinking about it,” she said.

In a speech to be delivered tonight at Trinity College Dublin in response to former French president Valéry Giscard d’Estaing, Ms Simons describes herself as “somebody seriously thinking about putting herself before the electorate”

Thinking about it? Seriously?
She has been "thinking" about it for months. She has been starring as Declan Ganley's stand-in on radio and TV shows in Ireland making gaffs about EU parliamentary structure and threatening court action in the warm up for her bid to become a Libertas MEP.Why hold back from stating you are running? Is this the type of decisiveness we need right now?

Ganley went on to slam European and Irish policies. Well what of Mr. Ganley's new policies to go with his new party? Nothing! Libertas have no policies.

Ganley slammed Euroscptics also. Indeed "I have poured scorn on Eurosceptics because scorn is what they deserve." he said.

What about these guys? Do you pour scorn on them too Declan? They are your Eurosceptic party members who signed up to get you/Libertas 200, 000 in funding. What are we to believe? That you scorn the people who support you and you bid for cash?

Phillipe de Villiers

De Villiers, (born Viscount Philippe Le Jolis de Villiers de Saintignon) was the Mouvement pour la France nominee for the French presidential election of 2007. He received 2.23% of the vote, putting him in sixth place. He was eliminated from the race.

De Villiers is noted for his anti-Islamist views: he wants France to break away from the Euro and to restore the French Franc.

An arch eurosceptic, de Villiers announced, in December 2008, on the MPF website that his candidates would be integrated into the Libertas slate for the European elections.

A political relationship between de Villiers and Declan Ganley, has been blossoming since the two men met two weeks before the Irish referendum, with Le Monde describing it as "love at first sight".

Ganley stayed at the French count's Vendee farm in the summer of 2008 and addressed the MPF's annual conference in Paris to a rapturous reception.
De Villiers was a guest at the dinner hosted by Ganley for Czech President, Vaclav Klaus, where Klaus breeched normal rules of diplomacy by attacking the Irish Government.

Paul Marie Couteaux, MEP


A member of de Villiers, Mouvement pour la France Couteaux is on record as saying that he would like to see France distancing itself from the union.


Poland


Cyprian Gutkowski, a number of the regional assembly of Mazovia, Poland. A supporter of MEP Maciej Giertych, 72, of the League of Polish Families who was censured in the EP for his booklet suggesting the Jews were biologically different.

Vladimir Zelezny, Libertas Czech Republic Despite Libertas’s claim to be pro-European, Mr Zelezny told Prague Radio l, ast year he was a Eurosceptic. “I left the Czech Republic for Brussels as a Eurorealist, Eurosceptical politician, and now I am a fierce Eurosceptic. It’s an over-regulated environment which strongly resembles what we know from our communist past.”



Finland
Timo Juhani Soini (born 30 May 1962 Rauma, Finland) is the leader of the True Finns party. Member of the Parliament of Finland. The party has 5 seats in the Finish parliament.
Soini was a member of the Rural Party (Suomen Maaseudun Puolue, SMP), and was Party Secretary General from 1992 to its end in 1995. He joined the True Finns Party (Perussuomalaiset) when it was founded in 1995 and succeeded Raimo Vistbacka as Chairman of the party in 1997.
Soini was his party's candidate in the 2006 Presidential election. He finished fifth out of the eight candidates in the first round, with a vote share of 3.4%. A book about Soini, Maisterisjätkä, was released by Tammi on March 2008.
Soini has been accused of xenophobia, which, as a devoted Catholic, he denies.
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Seriously?

FORMER FRENCH president Valéry Giscard D’Estaing labels Ganley dishonest

FORMER FRENCH president Valéry Giscard D’Estaing accuses Declan Ganley of misquoting him in a "dishonest" way during Libertas' Irish campaign.

"Following the referendum campaign, Mr Giscard, who was a controversial figure during the work of the EU convention and strongly in favour of greater EU federalism, denounced Libertas founder Declan Ganley, claiming that he had deliberately misquoted him in a “dishonest” way."


Irish Times

FORMER FRENCH president Valéry Giscard D’Estaing, who played a key role during Ireland’s Lisbon Treaty referendum last year, is to debate with anti-treaty advocates in Dublin later this month.

Mr Giscard is travel to Ireland on February 12th to be awarded honorary patronage of Trinity College, Dublin’s Philosophical Society, following a vote by members of the body recently.

The event will offer the former French president, who chaired the EU convention that drafted much of the text of the treaty, an opportunity to offer “his vision for the future of Europe”.

Efforts are under way to secure a meeting between Mr Giscard and Taoiseach Brian Cowen, though no arrangements have been made and it is not known if a meeting will take place.

He became a key figure during the campaign after Libertas quoted him as saying that the treaty meant that “public opinion will be led to adopt, without knowing it, the proposals we dare not present to them directly”.

The quotation was taken from an interview carried in French newspaper Le Monde but the next paragraph made clear that he believed that such an approach would be “unworthy” and only confirm European citizens “in the idea that the construction of Europe is organised behind their backs by lawyers and diplomats”.

Following the referendum campaign, Mr Giscard, who was a controversial figure during the work of the EU convention and strongly in favour of greater EU federalism, denounced Libertas founder Declan Ganley, claiming that he had deliberately misquoted him in a “dishonest” way.

He insisted that the passage quoted by Le Monde related only to France, because the French government was trying to tell its population that the content of Lisbon was different from the one it had rejected in 2005.

“[The government] wanted to tell them ‘it’s not the same’ when, in reality, the content was the same. So [my] argumentation was for the French. It had no meaning for people who had not voted on the text, like the Irish,” he told The Irish Times last June. Mr Giscard (82) was president of France from 1974 until 1981.

Patronage of the TCD Philosophical Society has been awarded in the past to a host of leading figures in politics, business and the arts including Archbishop Desmond Tutu, FW de Klerk, John Hume and Mohamed ElBaradei.

US presidential election candidate Republican senator John McCain is another to have been so honoured, along with Bob Geldof, Salman Rushdie, Niall Ferguson and Al Pacino.